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Expo 2017

Postby NicolasB » Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:56 pm

Hi,
I'm planning a visit to Astana just to visit the city and (2 days) the expo2017 (https://expo2017astana.com/en/) between June 21st and June 24th 2017. Anyone interested in joining me ?
I'm a frequent traveller to Expos, living in Belgium.
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Postby lissie45 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:01 am

The timing wouldn't work for us - but I'm curioius about the Expo - what are they like? I've only ever seen the empty sites long after the event!
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Re: Expo 2017

Postby steven » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:41 am

Hi Nicolas,

I would love to join you but cannot say when I will visit, it could be later, my travel plans are still unsure. In any case, your perspective as a frequent Expo visitor would be highly appreciated. Do you write about or document your Expo travels?
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Re: Expo 2017

Postby NicolasB » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:03 am

Hi,
nice to see two rapid reactions. The expo experience depends on what the organizing country makes of it.
There are different types of expos or 'expo-endorsed events'.
To summarize, there are 'big' and 'small' expos.

The big ones are organised once every 5 years, run for 6 months, expect millions of visitors, and most importantly, the participating countries build their own 'pavillions'. The architecture of these pavillions is sometimes really very creative, and it is a pleasure for anyone into design or architecture to look at the extreme variation of styles and techniques. In these big expos, the pavillions can sometimes contain 3D cinemas, rides, cable cars, interactive exhibitions, restaurants, ... Apart from the pavillions by country, there are usually 'central' thematic pavillions, which are in fact huge purpose build 'experience musea'. The last such Expo was at Milano in Italy in 2015, and the next one will be in Dubai in 2020. Previous expos of this style (and which I visited) were held in Shanghai (PRC), Hannover (Germany), Sevilla (Spain), ...

The small ones are organized in between the bigger ones. The duration is more like 4 months. The host country builds new expo-halls, later to be reused as fairgrounds or as a venue for conventions. They then subdivide the expo-halls in units that are occupied by the participating countries. The museum-technology is often less advanced then in the big expos. The pavillions are smaller and do not have a country-specific architecture. There can also be thematic pavillions, but more modest.

The host city usually benefits from the expo event in the sense that an overhaul of the airport, public transport system, hotels, ... is organised. The expo grounds are often re-used afterwards, to make it economically and ecologically more acceptable. A good example is the expo in 1998 in Lisbon, where the expo grounds were reused for new city development. A bad example is Sevilla (1992), where the expo grounds remained a deserted area for years after the event.

I don't consider myself a specialist, just an enthousiastic visitor having visited around 7 expos, but not the rapid 'one day visit', rather the 3 to 6 day visit to absorb the atmosphere in almost every pavillion.

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Re: Expo 2017

Postby steven » Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:43 pm

Thanks for explanation, Nicolas, I will be very interested to see how Astana compares to other Expo's you visited.
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Re: Expo 2017

Postby Galoou » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:44 pm

Hi,
Maybe i'm interested about that, i send you an MP.
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Re: Expo 2017

Postby Schwietzel » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:08 am

Hey Nicolas,
I´m arriving in Astana in the evening of the 16th June.
We could visit the Expo together if you´re interested.

Cheers,

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Re: Expo 2017

Postby hajfly » Tue May 09, 2017 3:49 pm

Hi there, I also plan to visit Astana for the EXPO 2017 and I am busy planning. While flying into Astana and visiting the EXPO seems to be quite easy I have really difficulties to find further informations about what to do in Astana and surroundings. But well this forum seems to be quite promising.

As it seems I will spend an extra day I think currently about an excursion out of Astana to see a bit more of the country tha only its capital. Does anybody have a hint for a must see or must do close to Astana?

Currently my idea is to take the train from Astana to Kokshetau and to make a trip to Burabay National Park. Does anybody know if it is worth to do so and how do I get from Kokshetau to the National Park. Does it work within a day to get there and back?

I tried also to find offers for excursions from Astana but if I found something in English it seemed to be kind of a rip off pricewise. So if anybody has an idea or a recommendation (for Astana as well, of course), please let me know.

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Re: Expo 2017

Postby hajfly » Tue May 09, 2017 5:00 pm

have to add, I got a bit further, destination must be Kurort Borovoe I found on wikitravel, and obviously there are trains from Astana, but how do I enter this on the page of Kazakh railways to book a ticket?

Has anybody already made use of tickets.kz? Is it reliable?
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Re: Expo 2017

Postby steven » Wed May 10, 2017 1:05 pm

Hi Jens, people have booked through tickets.kz before without having issues, so I would say it is reliable. You can also use chocotravel.kz - bad name, but it works.

I am not really an expert on Astana. Borovoye has become kind of a fancy resort area. The problem is indeed that tourism is not developed yet in Astana, so cool places like Korgalzhyn are too expensive and difficult to reach.

I can recommend you Karaganda and the Dolinka museum. That is doable in 1 day. Because of big distances, other places around like Semey are too far away for a 1-day excursion.

http://caravanistan.com/kazakhstan/karaganda -> Article needs an update, but it gives an idea.
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