Visiting Shohimardon / Shakhimardan

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Peter87
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Visiting Shohimardon / Shakhimardan

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Hello,

Since citizens of many countries don‘t need a visa for neither Uzbekistan nor Kyrgyzstan nowadays a visit to for example the Sokh enclave would technically be possible and easy. I could find really few information about whether this is in fact possible. The border crossing points may be only bilateral or the enclaves may generally be restricted areas. Does anyone know something about this or maybe even did visit one of the enclaves since visa free visits are possible?

I would really be grateful for each information on this topic.

Kind regards
Peter
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Re: Is it nowadays possible to visit Uzbek enclaves in Kyrgyzstan?

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I'd like to know too. I think it was always possible with a visa, but nobody took the trouble of going there since the visa was so expensive. Unless the border crossing is indeed bilateral as you say, I don't foresee any issues. Especially Shahimardan is known as a tourist destination.
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Re: Is it nowadays possible to visit Uzbek enclaves in Kyrgyzstan?

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Has anyone managed to visit Shakhimardan recently? I would like to do a day trip there in February but all travel agencies tell me foreigners are not allowed to go. Is there any way? Can one apply for a permit?
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Re: Is it nowadays possible to visit Uzbek enclaves in Kyrgyzstan?

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Hello, I am also thinking of visiting Shakhimardan in the end of February and would be very interested in hearing from anyone who tried recently. We'd be renting a car in Tashkent and driving down in that area. Have no idea whether you can actually bring a rental across, I suppose that's unlikely. But what about going by taxi or bus? I have EU citizenship, so no visa required for Uzbekistan or Kyrgyzstan.

I have been to the Tajik enclave Vorukh previously, was fascinating. But then traveled through from Kyrgyzstan. Had gone through the trouble of getting a double-entry visa to Tajikistan beforehand, but needn't have bothered as the guy merely looked in the window of my taxi and waved us on.
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I updated our article on the Ferghana valley enclaves: https://caravanistan.com/kyrgyzstan/sou ... -enclaves/

It's still pretty sparse for now - I haven't been myself - but I'll update as I find out more.
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Uzbek enclave: Shakhimardan

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Just tried to enter to visit the Hazrat Ali shrine. Was turned away, was told that only Kyrgyz and Uzbek citizens could cross.
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Re: Uzbek enclave: Shakhimardan

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Condor wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:25 am
Just tried to enter to visit the Hazrat Ali shrine. Was turned away, was told that only Kyrgyz and Uzbek citizens could cross.
Although “Avoid this Soviet Exclave!” (upload date 2022-01-15) youtube videos are not the most reliable source, but this one actually filmed (@ min 38-39) a foreign couple being turned away by a Kyrgyz border guard, calling the crossing “dustorovni,” i.e. “locals only.“ (With my very limited Russian I'd transliterate дусторовни which yields no result on the web.)

Digging a bit further the German Foreign Ministry site advises „Prüfen Sie vor Einreise auf dem Landweg, die Einreise-bzw. Transitregelungen des betreffenden Nachbarlandes.“ that is “”when crossing a land border check the entry and transit regulations of neighbouring countries“ just to continue a bit further down (in diplomat speak) “we haven't got a clue what those are, ask locally.”

Running Шоҳимардон + граница only yields some news reports from Sept 2017 that additional border crossings were opend and“uzbek and kyrgyz citizens” only need passports, not a word about foreigners.
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Re: Uzbek enclave: Shakhimardan

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adi wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 7:25 pm

turned away by a Kyrgyz border guard, calling the crossing “dustorovni,” i.e. “locals only.“ (With my very limited Russian I'd transliterate дусторовни which yields no result on the web.)
My freestyle Persian (doost = friend) and Russian knowledge would translate this word as friend-relevant or friendly. "Locals only" seems like a functional translation.
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