4 cyclists killed in Tajikistan

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Re: 4 cyclists killed in Tajikistan

Postby Lovetheworld » Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:52 pm

In my opinion that doesnt have much to do with terrorism, you also have this stuff when a car has an accident and goes into the water. People just stop and look while people are drowning in their car.

And millions of people go to India each year. If something happens there on the street they leave you for dead. So appareantly that doesnt deter people from coming.
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Re: 4 cyclists killed in Tajikistan

Postby bwv812 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:43 pm

mazeno wrote:> You did.
oh, really?
quotation, please.

I gave you the quote. I said that just like the risks of car accidents were greater in some places, so were the risks of terror attacks. You told me to stop being politically correct.

mazeno wrote:> the risk of them happening in some places is higher in some places than others
yes, and tjk is not free at all of the risk, too.


That was my point. A point I've now clarified multiple times and which only you don't seem to be grasping.

mazeno wrote:> terrorism incidents
wonderful term.
copy-paste from mainstream.
similarly as taking about car accidents in the case of terror attacks.
example: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38377428
in the headtitle - a loory has attacked, not an islamic state terrorist, but a lorry itself.
that's pure propaganda language.
and that's the western tolerance i wrote about.


Wow. I guess it is the height of propaganda when people describe 9/11 as the WTC attack, the Pentagon attack, or even as an airplane attack. And the title of this thread is "4 cyclists killed in Tajikistan," and not "terrorists kill 4."

And seriously, if you still actually can't understand the car accident analogy when it comes to risk-assessment, it goes a long way to explaining why rational discussion with you is so difficult.

If you want to deride Western Liberalism as "copy paste from mainsteam," then please be prepared to have your own opinions and positions described as alt-right, bigoted, etc.
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Re: 4 cyclists killed in Tajikistan

Postby mazeno » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:35 am

> "4 cyclists killed in Tajikistan," and not "terrorists kill 4."
and here is the problem.
it is hard to discuss with people using terms which don't describe facts, but media-facts.
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Re: 4 cyclists killed in Tajikistan

Postby mazeno » Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:46 am

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Re: 4 cyclists killed in Tajikistan

Postby bwv812 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:49 pm

For someone who wishes that people would describe "facts", it sure is misleading to post that link in a thread about terrorism.
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Re: 4 cyclists killed in Tajikistan

Postby mazeno » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:19 am

well, i don't really care. do what u want. good luck.
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Re: 4 cyclists killed in Tajikistan

Postby steven » Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:41 am

Here is another interesting tidbit:

Someone I know was at a UN security briefing in Dushanbe last week and heard an interesting story - that it wasn't IS at all, but a homophobia-related attack, arising from some kerfuffle at the guesthouse the riders had
been at the night before, and the fact two of the men were sharing a room, and somehow offended someone's sensibilities. IS just claimed it to scare people.

Not saying this is the truth, just adding it for those interested. Anyway, whatever the truth, it was a terrible tragedy.
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Re: 4 cyclists killed in Tajikistan

Postby mitrovobenissimo » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:05 pm

Sorry to step in, i was in Dangara last week and everything seemed normal, just as any other day. People on the streets, active bazar, no heavy police/military presence (at least visible), etc. There is also a memorial for the victims of the attack on the road (see image https://goo.gl/YsCjri).

Every Tajik I've met said it was a national shock and they feel extremely sad for those people and for their image as those terrorist did not represent Tajikistan thruthfully - and I tend to agree.
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Re: 4 cyclists killed in Tajikistan

Postby matt2matt2002 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:55 am

Dangara?
Is this where it happens?
Dangara is in Uzbekistan surely,?
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Re: 4 cyclists killed in Tajikistan

Postby matt2matt2002 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:11 pm

matt2matt2002 wrote:Dangara?
Is this where it happens?
Dangara is in Uzbekistan surely,?


Sorry. My error. Apologies.
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