Itinerary Plan - China/Mongolia/China/Kyrgyzstan

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Itinerary Plan - China/Mongolia/China/Kyrgyzstan

Post by idontcare428 »

Hoping to get some feedback/ideas/suggestions on my trip which I leave for on the 30th July.

Here is a Google Map outline of the itinerary: ... sp=sharing

Current (loose) plan at the moment is:
- Fly to Beijing from Auckland, a few days sightseeing in and around Beijing
- Trans Mongolian through to UlaanBaator
- Travel up to Lake Khovsgol (Trek/camping)
- Down to the Bulgan border crossing via Khovd
- Western China - Urumqi etc down to Kashgar
- Irkeshtam Pass into Kyrgyzstan
- Sary Tash > Osh > Arslanbob > Naryn > Karakol (trekking) > Northen shore of Issyk Kul to Bishkek
- Flight to Europe

Timeframe is approx. 3 months. ~5 days in Eastern China, ~3/4 weeks in Mongolia, ~1-2 weeks in Western China, ~4-6 weeks in Kyrgyzstan.

Already have a double entry Chinese Visa. Have both NZ and UK passports - so I understand both Mongolia and Kyrgyzstan are visa-free for me.

Will be self sufficient with a tent for any tricky sections. Don't know any Chinese or Russian (eep!).

Budget is in the tighter end of the scale but will consider internal flights to keep travel time down if need be.

Anyone have any feedback, hints, suggestions or potential issues with the current itinerary?
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Re: Itinerary Plan - China/Mongolia/China/Kyrgyzstan

Post by bwv812 »

One suggestion I would have is to take the Trans-Mongolian only through to Sainshand, spend a day or so there, then take the local train up to UB. The only problem is that you'll be dumped in Sainshand in the middle of the night, but it's worth a visit. In the worst-case scenario you can pitch your tent somewhere. ... black.html

I would also consider trying to see Amarbaysgalant Khiid, which is more or less on the way to Khovsgol (if you go through Erdenet). Lots of overland budget tours to Khovsgol make a stop at Amarbayasgalant Khiid (though usually on the way back to UB, it seems). ... khiid.html

I imagine the western Mongolia section of your trip will be the most challenging, as transportation will likely be pretty difficult. But the challenge is also part of the appeal to lots of people who go there, and you sound prepared for any eventuality, so I'm sure you'll be fine. It's probably the best place in the world to see traditional Kazakh culture, so that should be interesting.

Also, since you won't be going to the Tajik Pamirs, I would especially recommend visiting Tashkurgan and Karakol, up the Karakorum Highway from Kashgar. Though definitely more touristy than the Mongolian and Kyrgyz wilderness, it is easily possible to get away from it if you stay with a local Kyrgyz family around Karakol, and they'll probably be able to help you explore further into the mountains. ... ghway.html ... -lake.html

The Arslanbob-Naryn stretch will also be a bit difficult from a transport perspective.
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